WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.070 --> 00:00:12.959 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: This is Sunday, February the eighteenth, 2024, and we're together in our final recap session for our goddess Breath on course 2 00:00:13.910 --> 00:00:15.250 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and 3 00:00:16.320 --> 00:00:21.419 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: doing some overview looking and some sharing and 4 00:00:22.970 --> 00:00:26.629 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: looking ahead, figuring what's gonna come next. 5 00:00:26.810 --> 00:00:34.230 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So let's tune into our breaths and do some centering together. And then we'll 6 00:00:34.780 --> 00:00:37.930 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: proceed. However, it unfolds. 7 00:00:39.180 --> 00:00:40.010 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Oh. 8 00:01:23.850 --> 00:01:29.719 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: let's vocalize the invocation, and then take it into the breath where 9 00:01:30.080 --> 00:01:32.460 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: we inhale one phrase. 10 00:01:32.650 --> 00:01:38.350 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: exhale the other, and inhale the third one, and like that throughout it. 11 00:01:38.530 --> 00:01:47.299 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and in endeavoring to open up to and to emerge in as much as we're able to with 12 00:01:47.620 --> 00:01:57.869 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the reality, the energy field. The essence that the words of each of the phrases is pointing to remembering that they're inside us and that they're outside of us. 13 00:01:58.110 --> 00:02:00.970 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: that we're not really 14 00:02:01.160 --> 00:02:02.080 different 15 00:02:02.210 --> 00:02:03.780 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: from those spaces 16 00:02:05.940 --> 00:02:11.370 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: toward the one, the perfection of love. 17 00:02:12.040 --> 00:02:12.910 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: harmony. 18 00:02:13.400 --> 00:02:14.350 and beauty. 19 00:02:14.900 --> 00:02:17.040 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the only being 20 00:02:17.630 --> 00:02:21.670 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: united with all the illuminated soul. 21 00:02:22.750 --> 00:02:25.219 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: form the embodiment. 22 00:02:25.870 --> 00:02:27.169 the Master 23 00:02:27.770 --> 00:02:30.639 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: of the Message and the messengers 24 00:02:31.740 --> 00:02:34.780 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: of mystery. miracles 25 00:02:36.260 --> 00:02:37.779 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: of hidden treasures. 26 00:02:39.130 --> 00:02:43.680 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and much, much more the spirit of guidance. 27 00:02:48.320 --> 00:02:51.300 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and then inhaling and exhaling the phrases 28 00:05:12.580 --> 00:05:14.410 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I mean. 29 00:05:36.090 --> 00:05:45.310 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So one thing I wanted to of several that I wanted to draw. Everyone's attention, too. is 30 00:05:46.990 --> 00:05:48.539 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Wally Ollies 31 00:05:48.750 --> 00:05:51.780 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: final message and 32 00:05:52.010 --> 00:05:57.119 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: is suggested framework from moving forward. 33 00:05:57.540 --> 00:06:03.639 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: whether you go on to the second course in this series or not. 34 00:06:04.090 --> 00:06:06.900 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and 35 00:06:07.310 --> 00:06:09.310 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: there are Pdf 36 00:06:09.510 --> 00:06:13.120 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: versions of this at 37 00:06:13.230 --> 00:06:17.999 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: at the website on the the links to it on the the final final recap page. 38 00:06:18.100 --> 00:06:30.649 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: one thing. What I'm going to do is I'm going to share my screen and show this one thing II if you haven't seen me yet, I 39 00:06:31.500 --> 00:06:32.850 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: decided 40 00:06:34.280 --> 00:06:48.969 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: back in the reconfiguration period that I needed to see all of the practices for the course for the entire 10 segment course put together in a spreadsheet, so I could sort of look at how they were unfolding. 41 00:06:49.200 --> 00:06:52.389 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and get a much clearer. 42 00:06:54.060 --> 00:07:07.319 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I guess organized feeling for the array of the practices, and how one floated to the other, and the variations that got reproduced. And II produced that for 43 00:07:07.840 --> 00:07:12.220 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: this first 4 lessons. Let's see, we're sharing. 44 00:07:12.880 --> 00:07:15.520 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Let's come here. 45 00:07:23.970 --> 00:07:25.370 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Yeah, there we go. 46 00:07:28.910 --> 00:07:30.510 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Is this 47 00:07:30.730 --> 00:07:33.970 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: readable through the zoom. 48 00:07:34.510 --> 00:07:37.089 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Yeah. And I can make it a little bit bigger as well. 49 00:07:42.100 --> 00:07:46.860 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Okay. So the way I've laid this out, if you haven't seen it is that 50 00:07:46.960 --> 00:07:53.290 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: new practices are in red if they're continuing on from less to less, and they go to black. 51 00:07:53.530 --> 00:08:07.950 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And then in areas where there's a a little tweak or a little change to the practice. I put that in red again, so you can see at a glance when new things or changes happen, and it's all on one page. 52 00:08:10.590 --> 00:08:17.109 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So one of the suggestions that Walia makes in the plan for moving forward 53 00:08:18.180 --> 00:08:19.880 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: is to remember 54 00:08:21.320 --> 00:08:26.149 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: that you don't have to do every one of the practices daily. 55 00:08:26.750 --> 00:08:32.830 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: but rather to begin to tune into our own breaths and feel into 56 00:08:32.890 --> 00:08:35.429 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: what do I want to work with for 57 00:08:35.470 --> 00:08:38.439 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: today or this week or this month. 58 00:08:38.679 --> 00:08:45.439 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and then continue to tuning in and tuning in. tuning in and tuning in, to see 59 00:08:45.460 --> 00:08:49.570 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: when the feeling changes and responding to what we're drawn to. 60 00:08:49.620 --> 00:08:56.059 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and that feeling that, okay, I'm feeling pretty good about this. I want to move on to focus on something else. 61 00:08:58.640 --> 00:09:00.290 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And for me at least 62 00:09:00.540 --> 00:09:09.509 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: in terms of helping with that process, being able to see all of them. On one page I find very helpful. 63 00:09:09.650 --> 00:09:12.269 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And there's not a lot of detail here. 64 00:09:12.330 --> 00:09:17.430 And that's what the the written descriptions on the various assignment sheets are for. 65 00:09:17.560 --> 00:09:23.259 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: But any any observations or comments about this. 66 00:09:41.230 --> 00:09:43.990 Andy Cheffings: can I just say something 67 00:09:44.190 --> 00:09:52.349 Andy Cheffings: II looked at this when I did it, but for me I found it easier to think about 68 00:09:53.370 --> 00:10:11.019 Andy Cheffings: what I sort of gained from the course. And then just think myself what helped with that? What helped with that? I mean this obviously different people thinking different ways, and I think in a grid form is very clear to some people. But for me, I'll sort of think more like in a narrative somehow. 69 00:10:11.100 --> 00:10:13.360 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Yeah, so great. Yeah. 70 00:10:15.470 --> 00:10:17.910 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: yeah, II. 71 00:10:18.850 --> 00:10:25.040 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: We keep coming back in in different ways of articulating it to the fact that 72 00:10:26.950 --> 00:10:35.200 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: just as you said, people learn in different ways. And so these are suggested ways of of 73 00:10:35.490 --> 00:10:38.609 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: helping suggested order. 74 00:10:39.920 --> 00:10:44.249 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and the way Walia laid out the order in the original class. 75 00:10:44.370 --> 00:10:45.510 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: They worked 76 00:10:45.680 --> 00:10:50.950 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the same practice on the same line, although Rossi put them in different orders. 77 00:10:51.490 --> 00:11:00.850 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And I'm thinking it was because he was working with a group of in-person people. and he was tuning in to 78 00:11:00.920 --> 00:11:06.930 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: what the feeling of the day was like and and how he was feeling that that flow 79 00:11:06.950 --> 00:11:10.209 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: to what? What what 80 00:11:10.360 --> 00:11:18.290 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Was Eva practices, what walks, what commentary on readings and whatnot, what sharing. 81 00:11:18.460 --> 00:11:26.729 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: how that wanted to happen! My experience of him in the 6 years that I met with an at least weekly, if not twice weekly. 82 00:11:26.860 --> 00:11:34.219 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: in the late seventies, I began to see what an incredibly skilled person he was in reading 83 00:11:35.990 --> 00:11:39.560 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and reading the atmosphere right now. 84 00:11:39.730 --> 00:11:46.180 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and in his dance leading. He'd never let it get too far in any particular direction. 85 00:11:46.400 --> 00:11:56.430 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: but kept coming back, you know, fast, energetic dances for a little bit, and then more internal, more meditative dances, and in the class where we sat down to listen. 86 00:11:56.620 --> 00:12:04.639 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: He had a real keen sense of when people had been sitting long enough. So then we get up and we do a dance and then sit down again. 87 00:12:05.940 --> 00:12:11.270 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: so that that sense of of 88 00:12:11.620 --> 00:12:14.550 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: tuning into the moment for ourselves. 89 00:12:15.660 --> 00:12:18.480 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: if that draws us 90 00:12:19.270 --> 00:12:25.989 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: can be invaluable in terms of engaging in a living and dynamic way. 91 00:12:26.260 --> 00:12:32.190 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and I know there are other people with different internal organizations that they like irregular. 92 00:12:32.270 --> 00:12:38.240 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and, you know, might feel really comfortable. Following this exactly the way it's laid out. 93 00:12:38.330 --> 00:12:48.710 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Just a suggestion. But invocation first, and then Rakiv, and then they're this, and then they're that. But I want to emphasize. Don't feel constrained. 94 00:12:49.370 --> 00:13:00.050 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: cause this is what works for me, both in terms of organizing. A course that that I'm I'm sitting in the role of presenting, but also in my own practice. 95 00:13:00.710 --> 00:13:04.079 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: so There's that 96 00:13:07.160 --> 00:13:08.530 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and 97 00:13:11.010 --> 00:13:13.080 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: The other thing. 98 00:13:13.560 --> 00:13:26.649 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I did this similar thing for the at least the titles of the readings by lessons. So I mean, there's so many pages in the various Pdfs. And there was something about 99 00:13:27.110 --> 00:13:30.260 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: rouge. What lesson was it in? Well. 100 00:13:30.400 --> 00:13:33.019 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: everything is here on 2 pages this time. 101 00:13:33.540 --> 00:13:37.160 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: If that's helpful, if it's not, don't even bother with it. 102 00:13:37.330 --> 00:13:46.390 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And this is my transcription of the final video compilation 103 00:13:46.930 --> 00:13:48.989 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: which may be helpful. 104 00:13:49.890 --> 00:13:57.840 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and his guidance for future practice is what I want to focus in right now and then I want to get to some sharing 105 00:13:58.050 --> 00:14:06.600 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and I've got the timestamps from the video, where, if you want to watch the video, you can jump into it right at where they are 106 00:14:06.840 --> 00:14:18.659 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: What he did was to have a variation on the daily daily breathing practice, which is what we more or less did today. 107 00:14:18.830 --> 00:14:28.590 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: centering, getting the breath and rhythm beginning to feel the magnetism and man inhaling and exhaling the invocation. So that was the variation that he introduced. 108 00:14:29.190 --> 00:14:35.769 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: That's listed out here. Just basically taking the transcript of what he, the way he led it. 109 00:14:36.170 --> 00:14:42.890 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And then there's a final written message that is included in 110 00:14:43.330 --> 00:14:47.949 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the resources for the class as well as he actually read it in the. 111 00:14:48.030 --> 00:14:49.199 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: in the class. 112 00:14:50.200 --> 00:14:52.110 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: some inspirational words. 113 00:14:53.190 --> 00:15:10.250 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and then the guidance for future practice. He was making 5 suggestions as a framework. a suggestion framework. The first was to make a systematic review of the course material. So you know what's there? 114 00:15:11.030 --> 00:15:32.969 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And basically this is, I think what Andy was talking about in terms of what did I get for this, and what practices and readings contributed to my deepening into that, to just in whatever way works for you look over the material. So you're remembering what's there and what's possible. 115 00:15:34.840 --> 00:15:48.230 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And again. not everybody's gonna want to focus on the same things. This is individual. So, in a certain sense. 116 00:15:49.400 --> 00:15:57.670 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: like in academia, in literature and history and other courses, there are overview courses. 117 00:15:57.820 --> 00:16:12.230 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And then, after the overview course. You decide what you want to focus on. This was a practices overview. and in in in being able to spend some time with each of them. 118 00:16:12.340 --> 00:16:13.780 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: We get a taste 119 00:16:14.090 --> 00:16:19.440 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: for each of the different practices it got introduced through the 4 lessons. 120 00:16:21.260 --> 00:16:25.080 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and my guess is 121 00:16:25.190 --> 00:16:34.070 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: that hardly anybody will be able to get to a level of mastery just going through this cycle at one time. 122 00:16:34.420 --> 00:16:35.520 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Somebody might. 123 00:16:35.690 --> 00:16:47.190 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: but most people need to spend more time with it and allow it to deepen and to unfold and to begin to interact with us in different permutations. 124 00:16:47.710 --> 00:16:51.740 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: But Number one was making a systematic review of materials. 125 00:16:54.520 --> 00:17:00.179 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Number 2, remembering to check in with the condition of our breath periodically throughout the day. 126 00:17:04.150 --> 00:17:04.960 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And 127 00:17:07.700 --> 00:17:12.619 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: yeah, how often do I remember to do that? Not so often. So there's an area 128 00:17:12.800 --> 00:17:17.590 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: of engagement and further work and further development for myself. 129 00:17:17.690 --> 00:17:24.480 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Write in that one little statement. keeping a journal that arises from your contemplation of your breath. 130 00:17:27.940 --> 00:17:34.050 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: The ideal for Number 4 is maintaining a regular daily practice. However, you configure it. 131 00:17:35.950 --> 00:17:37.969 I want to emphasize again. 132 00:17:38.500 --> 00:17:42.870 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: More is better. but some is better than none. 133 00:17:44.160 --> 00:17:47.379 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and if we hold too tightly to the ideal. 134 00:17:48.400 --> 00:17:53.730 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: we set ourselves up, probably for falling short of that ideal 135 00:17:54.240 --> 00:18:02.730 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: which then has the possibility of invoking the judge self and beginning to feel bad about ourselves because we can't. 136 00:18:03.570 --> 00:18:05.060 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: We can't maintain 137 00:18:05.260 --> 00:18:06.460 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: in that 138 00:18:07.280 --> 00:18:16.330 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: vision in that idealized fashion and finally 139 00:18:16.960 --> 00:18:18.580 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: feel gratitude every day 140 00:18:18.830 --> 00:18:23.690 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: for all of the blessings the course brought, and all of the blessings in our lives. 141 00:18:27.640 --> 00:18:30.870 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and one of the things that I know from my own experience. 142 00:18:31.880 --> 00:18:40.180 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: The more I'm focused on what I don't have in my life, or what's not going the way I'd like it to go. 143 00:18:41.940 --> 00:18:52.699 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I feel more and more contracted the longer I spend in that space of what's missing what I don't have. It didn't work the way I wanted to. Oh, I didn't 144 00:18:53.420 --> 00:18:54.630 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: dot dot Dot. 145 00:18:56.530 --> 00:18:58.440 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: when I remember 146 00:18:58.500 --> 00:19:16.710 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: to, in any of a variety of ways, move into the space of seeing what I already have activated in the blessings. And what's coming towards me, and engaging with gratitude about that, the more and more expanded my heart feels. 147 00:19:17.150 --> 00:19:24.220 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And it was a really powerful experience years ago to discover that 148 00:19:24.240 --> 00:19:25.370 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: feedback loop. 149 00:19:26.060 --> 00:19:31.359 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: The the more I'm moaning. Oh, I don't have this. I don't have that. And this is right. That is right. 150 00:19:32.350 --> 00:19:42.310 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: smaller and more compacted and more dense. And oh, wow! Gratitude for this gratitude for that opening and opening and opening. 151 00:19:45.210 --> 00:19:49.460 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Yeah, basically, I'm gonna leave it there, any observations or comments. 152 00:19:57.100 --> 00:20:01.940 I finally got around to watching a lot of the videos this last 2 weeks. 153 00:20:02.150 --> 00:20:11.259 Leslie Roche: and he does this one gratitude, Yasha Kor Ahmed, and he has a discussion about it. 154 00:20:11.290 --> 00:20:18.889 Leslie Roche: and I just want to recommend. I found that so helpful. It was just beautifully done and very, very helpful. 155 00:20:20.890 --> 00:20:22.969 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Yeah, and that that's the pair 156 00:20:23.030 --> 00:20:32.400 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: that I worked with back when I began to realize this difference, because when I was working with them, and then carrying on for the rest of the day kind of in that space. 157 00:20:33.300 --> 00:20:34.799 The world is wonderful! 158 00:20:36.170 --> 00:20:51.859 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And when I started complaining. and as the little information in Chapter 5 of physicians, the heart that talks about Hamid and Shakur. I forget whether it's I think it's Shakur, but it may even the pair together 159 00:20:52.950 --> 00:20:59.909 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: can be an antidote for the complaining self. which is one of the 160 00:21:00.540 --> 00:21:04.620 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: named ego stages in the 161 00:21:04.990 --> 00:21:07.490 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Sufi understanding of the development of ego 162 00:21:08.370 --> 00:21:14.490 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and the complaining self. Always notice what's not what's lacking, what's less than. 163 00:21:14.600 --> 00:21:17.030 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and all of those comparisons. 164 00:21:19.410 --> 00:21:24.889 Leslie Roche: How it struck me as he said it was an antidote to a dissatisfaction with the world. 165 00:21:24.990 --> 00:21:27.380 Leslie Roche: Yes, which I have. 166 00:21:27.580 --> 00:21:34.389 Leslie Roche: And he said, Yasha Court reaches into wounded places in the heart. You know that 167 00:21:34.430 --> 00:21:44.529 Leslie Roche: cause that. And yeah, Hamid is a reaching out. realizing it's all in all, or something like that. I didn't quite understand that one as much. But 168 00:21:44.850 --> 00:21:47.830 Leslie Roche: yeah, it's really beautifully done. 169 00:21:48.480 --> 00:22:04.900 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I agree. I agree. And with with diving a bit into the sound code that's built into the Arabic language the names that have that vowel pattern of EA short and long, mead? 170 00:22:06.110 --> 00:22:08.940 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: One of the basic meanings of that 171 00:22:09.330 --> 00:22:15.069 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: vowel pattern is the quality touches every point everywhere without exception. 172 00:22:16.560 --> 00:22:22.040 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and I think that's what he means about gratitude for what's in the larger sense. 173 00:22:22.390 --> 00:22:24.260 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And then the oo 174 00:22:24.420 --> 00:22:30.979 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: short a longueu, penetrating to the deepest place within. 175 00:22:31.830 --> 00:22:34.670 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and that tends to be where we buried 176 00:22:34.990 --> 00:22:40.979 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: wounded places in our greatest disappointment. And you know, and very often with way we hold them. 177 00:22:41.300 --> 00:22:49.619 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Those places get to feel that there's no possibility of feeling gratitude or no possibility of being forgiven. 178 00:22:50.090 --> 00:22:53.230 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: yeah, 179 00:22:53.760 --> 00:22:58.320 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: anyway. Lots of stuff here. So 180 00:22:58.440 --> 00:23:02.129 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: tuning in to what we feel. A draw towards. 181 00:23:02.180 --> 00:23:06.540 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I think, is is probably the the 182 00:23:07.190 --> 00:23:12.239 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the name of the approach for going forward. Anybody else have something to say about 183 00:23:12.680 --> 00:23:21.509 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: this, and and can move into into sharing about what you found useful and didn't work so well for you with the course itself. 184 00:23:23.930 --> 00:23:25.100 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Pad, please. 185 00:23:40.830 --> 00:23:41.630 Vadan Tereza: Hmm! 186 00:23:41.860 --> 00:23:44.129 Vadan Tereza: You know what. So 187 00:23:44.460 --> 00:23:47.280 Vadan Tereza: one thing I've been noticing. 188 00:23:47.870 --> 00:23:52.089 Vadan Tereza: I've been doing a I've been doing a lot of the dances lately. 189 00:23:52.660 --> 00:23:54.130 Vadan Tereza: and 190 00:23:54.920 --> 00:24:04.420 Vadan Tereza: you know there's something, and you know what especially. And also when I watch some of the some of the videos of Wally Ali. I'm just reminded 191 00:24:04.950 --> 00:24:07.910 Vadan Tereza: the way that 192 00:24:09.900 --> 00:24:13.039 Vadan Tereza: sacred atmosphere gets created. 193 00:24:13.430 --> 00:24:14.500 Vadan Tereza: And 194 00:24:14.990 --> 00:24:23.499 Vadan Tereza: you know, of course, when when you're in this collectivity of of, you know, doing these sacred chants together. It's 195 00:24:23.600 --> 00:24:31.179 Vadan Tereza: it's something I just feel like. It's it's this, really. For me. It's a very important element in all of this. 196 00:24:31.380 --> 00:24:36.090 Vadan Tereza: And it it really supports, you know, supports the 197 00:24:36.210 --> 00:24:39.400 Vadan Tereza: the individual practice. 198 00:24:40.110 --> 00:24:45.349 Vadan Tereza: so yeah, so that's something I'm always I'm always aware of, just just because, you know, 199 00:24:46.550 --> 00:24:59.500 Vadan Tereza: we see, we see these the you know that when we see the a lot of the recordings, of course they're also doing the dances as part of this, and you know it's II love zoom for so many things like just being able to gather 200 00:24:59.780 --> 00:25:06.259 Vadan Tereza: from from great distances. But I'm also like, Oh, kind of aware of this. This 201 00:25:06.330 --> 00:25:13.660 Vadan Tereza: yearning to. you know, create the sacred atmosphere in in, in, you know. being in person. 202 00:25:13.670 --> 00:25:15.750 Right? Right? 203 00:25:43.780 --> 00:25:47.749 Leslie Roche: Yeah. I'd like to comment on that. III agree, cause watching the 204 00:25:48.080 --> 00:25:52.189 Leslie Roche: videos of Wally Ali. I felt that was a very important part. 205 00:25:52.430 --> 00:25:55.869 Leslie Roche: And at the beginning of Covid 206 00:25:56.310 --> 00:26:00.090 Leslie Roche: with the San Lewis group. They actually did dances 207 00:26:00.230 --> 00:26:11.199 Leslie Roche: on zoom. and I think we could do that where we could take a very simple dance, and we could all get up. be dancing it in our own space. feeling as if we're together. 208 00:26:11.360 --> 00:26:18.330 Leslie Roche: and it wouldn't be quite as wonderful as in person. But I think it would create some of that feeling. 209 00:26:18.660 --> 00:26:19.690 Leslie Roche: maybe. 210 00:26:29.570 --> 00:26:33.160 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Can I come in at this point, Maurice? Oh, yes, please. 211 00:26:33.310 --> 00:26:34.400 Andy Cheffings: Okay. 212 00:26:34.600 --> 00:26:42.880 Andy Cheffings: Well, the I've been the reason I come in at this point is because it's sort of follows on from that. But then I'll go into my own experience if that's okay. So 213 00:26:42.910 --> 00:26:45.740 Andy Cheffings: well, what I was thinking of is that 214 00:26:47.540 --> 00:26:52.519 Andy Cheffings: I've been. I go to the dance to be university when I can in in Birmingham. 215 00:26:52.930 --> 00:27:14.679 Andy Cheffings: Doesn't always run because he, you'd be surprised. Isn't there a million people in the city? But it still can't get 15 people sometimes, anyhow. Anyhow. What was being really special about this, though, is this focus on the breath? And that was something I was very, very keen to do. I felt it was the thing I really wanted to focus on was the breath. 216 00:27:14.720 --> 00:27:23.209 Andy Cheffings: And I don't know why. It's just an instinct. If they're gonna feel great. This course is that. And also I wanted to do it with you. Mirrors 217 00:27:24.260 --> 00:27:26.350 Andy Cheffings: that's 218 00:27:26.390 --> 00:27:40.559 Andy Cheffings: possible reasons of inclusion and stuff like that. And for me, that was very, very important. And it's just such a to be able to to work with someone with your life experience and not all great, wonderful. 219 00:27:41.370 --> 00:27:50.629 Andy Cheffings: Everything's perfect about this, anyhow. So so then so, because of working with breath, and that was my instinctive thing. So 220 00:27:50.660 --> 00:28:09.830 Andy Cheffings: it's been a very hard year for me, because first of all, the Buddhist order I was in has been really problematic. I'd be. I would stop being a priest, and they persuaded me to become a priest again. Turned out. It was under false pretenses, because they hadn't really. They had retrained with this other wardrobe. I liked the look of the odds, but then they were going back to what they were doing before, which I wasn't happy with. So that was really horrible. It was like 2 fall outs. 221 00:28:09.850 --> 00:28:20.789 Andy Cheffings: one after the other. And then, recently, there's been a really difficult thing at the Quake Quake meeting, which I also go to with. It's just very, very difficult, very, very more emotions. And 222 00:28:20.850 --> 00:28:25.170 Andy Cheffings: it's just been really unpleasant. It's to do with colonialism and 223 00:28:25.620 --> 00:28:40.190 Andy Cheffings: And people looking back to colonialism and want. And some people just determine that that has to be back on the outside of the great Meeting house, which says particular things, and it's oversimplified. And so lots of people say, no, that's just too simplistic. 224 00:28:40.390 --> 00:28:44.949 Andy Cheffings: These terrible things did happen. But but just. But condemning the cap is 225 00:28:45.750 --> 00:28:58.719 Andy Cheffings: is is too simplistic. It's much, is much more complex than that. So I'm not gonna go into all the complexities of it. That's not the point of it. But anyway. So it's been a really hard yeah. And 226 00:28:59.910 --> 00:29:28.260 Andy Cheffings: So the first thing which is really helpful to me was the Horror Walk, which is off one of the videos. We you mentioned it as well, but it's also how was the whole video thing about the different walks? And what that really did was just free up my direction, completely freed up my body so that I was actually able to go in different directions. So I do it as I work, went to my daily exercise walk around the area going to. But then I had a knock on effect in my life, and sort of softened up 227 00:29:28.440 --> 00:29:33.789 Andy Cheffings: what I was doing in my life. So then I was felt able to. I just felt a lot freer. 228 00:29:33.930 --> 00:29:46.169 Andy Cheffings: different possibilities. And so then I start to become much clearer about what I was trying to what I want my intentions as to get much clearer. So that was really great. 229 00:29:46.490 --> 00:29:54.879 Andy Cheffings: And then the the other thing had a real impact is just the ongoing, deepening, breathing sequence that we've been in doing all the way through. 230 00:29:55.640 --> 00:29:59.329 Andy Cheffings: and I sort of 231 00:29:59.670 --> 00:30:12.399 Andy Cheffings: what I've been finding has been happening as the earth. Progress is. This is not something I intended to happen at all, but I've just found that I've been going backwards through time. I've not been forcing it. It's just been the effect of doing the practices. 232 00:30:12.470 --> 00:30:23.240 Andy Cheffings: and more and more things which had been troubled which were troublesome. I didn't really think about them all the time, but they were sort of troublesome things in the background. They've all been cleared one but one after another. 233 00:30:23.510 --> 00:30:33.180 Andy Cheffings: and it's been a very amazing process things which I didn't think were clearable. I just sort of left with them to one side and left them with clear through. And I'm thinking, well, I'm not troubled by that anymore. So it's been very. 234 00:30:33.210 --> 00:30:38.359 Andy Cheffings: very interesting, very, very interesting, because it's been going back. And then 235 00:30:38.920 --> 00:30:47.849 Andy Cheffings: I think the thing which is really powerful to me, which is very useful for me. And powerful was this idea about breathing with other beings? 236 00:30:48.020 --> 00:31:03.930 Andy Cheffings: And who do I feel drawn to breathe with, and that's kind of changed as it's gone through through the year. and then about widening the heart to include what we need to include, and you can widen as wide as you as you need to. 237 00:31:04.390 --> 00:31:10.559 Andy Cheffings: And then it's sort of now come back after I'll travel back to 238 00:31:10.570 --> 00:31:35.150 Andy Cheffings: one of the most difficult points in my life, and that's where I am. At the moment, through this process, when I was between the ages of 11 and 14, when I was. I was very poorly and it was quite actually life threatening, but no one knew about. It was a meant I had a serious mental condition that no one knew about. No one did anything about it. There's plenty of signs and stuff. But and it got come to the point that it was actually physically 239 00:31:35.240 --> 00:31:43.779 Andy Cheffings: like, actually life-threatening, because I was actually sort of making myself faint and falling over and hitting my head on concrete, which actually not a good idea. 240 00:31:43.830 --> 00:31:56.919 Andy Cheffings: No, I so I talk to my doctor actually, much later, years later, and said, Well, how can I be sure I didn't have any brain damage, and said they, they said, Well, you can't be sure that's of a brain scam, they said. Well, that's very reassuring. So anyway. 241 00:31:57.070 --> 00:32:06.010 Andy Cheffings: So that's the kind of points. I've got to put some through this process and being able to sort of access those things because of this this breathing practice. 242 00:32:06.490 --> 00:32:16.540 Andy Cheffings: and I'm not sure where it's going now, because I just don't know. It's just been a process that's been going on, and I'm able to breathe with the people that were around at the time. 243 00:32:16.560 --> 00:32:18.790 Andy Cheffings: and some there's been some quite painful 244 00:32:19.300 --> 00:32:27.129 Andy Cheffings: sort of relationships that they're sort of softening. And I'm starting to start to feel some sort of 245 00:32:27.700 --> 00:32:36.860 Andy Cheffings: some love which doesn't really have that sort of craving attached to it, just starting to have the feeling of that around that particular time. So 246 00:32:36.900 --> 00:32:47.350 Andy Cheffings: so I don't really know where it's going, but that's been the really powerful thing for me through this. So that and what's helped is that ongoing breathing practice. Then that harbour walk softened and softened everything up. 247 00:32:47.510 --> 00:32:52.980 Andy Cheffings: and then the teachings on widening the heart and breathing with other beings 248 00:32:53.220 --> 00:32:54.430 Andy Cheffings: have been 249 00:32:54.800 --> 00:32:59.429 Andy Cheffings: really so. It's it's it's been. I'm thrilled. It's been, it's been 250 00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:07.429 Andy Cheffings: it's it's really been much more powerful and more surprising than II thought it would be. I thought it would be great, but it's been 251 00:33:07.650 --> 00:33:13.759 Andy Cheffings: a really powerful experience way beyond my expectations. 252 00:33:13.870 --> 00:33:17.339 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So wonderful. Thank you. 253 00:35:00.300 --> 00:35:01.330 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Please sit down. 254 00:35:06.710 --> 00:35:09.020 Subhana: I have not been as 255 00:35:09.480 --> 00:35:15.220 Subhana: consistent with the practices as I aspire to be. 256 00:35:15.500 --> 00:35:19.930 Subhana: But there are some things that have 257 00:35:20.570 --> 00:35:23.830 Subhana: a have come 258 00:35:24.220 --> 00:35:26.569 Subhana: the end and part of my daily life. 259 00:35:26.690 --> 00:35:33.310 Subhana: II certainly notice my breath many more times a day than I did before. 260 00:35:33.680 --> 00:35:38.130 Subhana: and I noticed a pause at the top of the inhale. 261 00:35:38.250 --> 00:35:41.070 Subhana: and the top of the the bottom of the exhale 262 00:35:41.390 --> 00:35:45.830 Subhana: and 263 00:35:46.340 --> 00:35:52.180 Subhana: and connecting it to my heart. 264 00:35:53.670 --> 00:35:54.770 Subhana: There were 265 00:35:55.320 --> 00:35:59.740 Subhana: some practices that worked for a while, and that just dropped off. 266 00:35:59.860 --> 00:36:02.980 Subhana: brother. intensely. 267 00:36:03.040 --> 00:36:07.440 Subhana: So so the descending dove 268 00:36:07.870 --> 00:36:11.090 Subhana: worked for a while, and I haven't done that in ages. 269 00:36:11.340 --> 00:36:17.299 Subhana: The Airfon, writing. Allah! My heart 270 00:36:17.520 --> 00:36:21.140 Subhana: worked for a while, and I haven't thought of that recently. 271 00:36:21.460 --> 00:36:25.819 Subhana: the meditations. 272 00:36:26.340 --> 00:36:27.850 Subhana: and it's 273 00:36:29.310 --> 00:36:33.419 Subhana: I only use them when I was actually reading them at 274 00:36:33.470 --> 00:36:39.529 Subhana: near a time of a class. And I liked them very much then, but I didn't keep them going. 275 00:36:39.830 --> 00:36:42.680 Subhana: A. 276 00:36:42.710 --> 00:36:43.760 Subhana: The 277 00:36:43.910 --> 00:36:48.720 Subhana: the grazing in one nostril out the other. 278 00:36:50.210 --> 00:37:00.559 Subhana: because I often did exercises when I first lay down for a nap, or when I lay down for the night, and I had a sea pap on. I couldn't really do them. 279 00:37:00.850 --> 00:37:05.350 Subhana: You can't, you can't really do one else or the other. 280 00:37:05.470 --> 00:37:06.500 Subhana: I. 281 00:37:07.070 --> 00:37:21.099 Subhana: And and so the main time I did that was when I was using my allergy medicine, and I had to go up one after the other. That was when it was like, Okay, let's do both nostrils. 282 00:37:26.440 --> 00:37:30.879 Subhana: I think that what I valued the most was my conversations with you, Maurice. 283 00:37:31.630 --> 00:37:36.370 Subhana: So so you know, being able to go ahead and 284 00:37:36.820 --> 00:37:41.839 Subhana: check in and get your perspective is what mattered the most to me in the group? 285 00:37:42.140 --> 00:37:48.430 Subhana: Though I love everybody's presence and comments. I II 286 00:37:48.760 --> 00:37:58.930 Subhana: I really felt a resonance with you, and it was very easy to let your words go deeply inside of me. Thank you very much. 287 00:38:02.070 --> 00:38:03.240 100, you know. 288 00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:09.700 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Thank you. 289 00:38:09.820 --> 00:38:10.580 Thank you. 290 00:39:33.710 --> 00:39:36.080 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Yes, please. But 291 00:39:53.670 --> 00:39:58.140 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I think that may have been an adjusting of the the song rather than a 292 00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:02.659 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: coming forward to share something. 293 00:40:11.040 --> 00:40:12.269 Leslie Roche: Well, I could go 294 00:40:12.720 --> 00:40:16.580 Leslie Roche: for me. It's been sort of subtle. 295 00:40:16.790 --> 00:40:25.690 Leslie Roche: The changes. Only in the last month have I been noticing if I'm breathing in the left or right nostril. 296 00:40:26.110 --> 00:40:28.520 And I wanted to ask you, actually, because 297 00:40:28.780 --> 00:40:32.360 Leslie Roche: often I'm stuffed up. So I breathe through my mouth. 298 00:40:33.190 --> 00:40:37.840 Leslie Roche: And I was thinking that that's the air breath. 299 00:40:38.320 --> 00:40:43.300 Leslie Roche: And I tend to be sort of a lot of the time in some kind of 300 00:40:43.510 --> 00:40:46.430 Leslie Roche: light 301 00:40:46.820 --> 00:40:48.310 Leslie Roche: creative space. 302 00:40:48.490 --> 00:40:52.620 Leslie Roche: And I was thinking, maybe that's because I couldn't write it through my nose. 303 00:40:52.940 --> 00:40:55.320 Leslie Roche: I've been kind of in an airspace. 304 00:40:56.290 --> 00:41:03.909 Leslie Roche: anyway, but I want to ask you about that at the end. Maybe you can comment on that. And then it's odd, because I like. 305 00:41:03.970 --> 00:41:07.060 Leslie Roche: you know, theoretically, I like being spontaneous. 306 00:41:07.150 --> 00:41:12.750 Leslie Roche: and I've just been doing it pretty doggedly, just doing all of them every day. 307 00:41:13.430 --> 00:41:14.610 Leslie Roche: And 308 00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:23.500 Leslie Roche: the Rakiva I think I've been doing wrong. so maybe you can tell me that at the end, too, but 309 00:41:23.840 --> 00:41:26.379 somehow it naturally came to 310 00:41:26.570 --> 00:41:30.350 Leslie Roche: breathe out the right nostril, and think of the 311 00:41:30.930 --> 00:41:34.180 Leslie Roche: children and breathe in the 312 00:41:34.780 --> 00:41:37.380 Leslie Roche: left, and think of 313 00:41:37.810 --> 00:41:39.699 Leslie Roche: the wonder of space. 314 00:41:40.190 --> 00:41:50.340 Leslie Roche: And I really like that practice. although I've been looking at Wally Ali and you, and seems like you're focusing in at your heart instead 315 00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:53.870 Leslie Roche: of going out with each of them, which is what I've been doing. 316 00:41:54.350 --> 00:41:56.579 Leslie Roche: But I really like it. 317 00:41:57.110 --> 00:41:58.370 Leslie Roche: It's been helpful. 318 00:41:59.030 --> 00:42:02.519 I sometimes remember when I'm with people to 319 00:42:03.710 --> 00:42:07.380 Leslie Roche: take that loving intention. and 320 00:42:07.610 --> 00:42:09.480 Leslie Roche: that's helpful. 321 00:42:10.000 --> 00:42:15.539 Leslie Roche: And I really liked the who practice when you talked about 322 00:42:15.970 --> 00:42:17.829 Leslie Roche: riding it on the heart. 323 00:42:18.890 --> 00:42:23.979 Leslie Roche: and I don't remember if it was you or Wally Ali with it being lit up then 324 00:42:24.210 --> 00:42:28.100 Leslie Roche: and exhaling through the heart to everybody 325 00:42:29.530 --> 00:42:30.870 Leslie Roche: with Allah. 326 00:42:32.240 --> 00:42:45.620 Leslie Roche: I've used that one a few times, but when I get frustrated with my partner it seems to help. and in general, though I think that main thing is just that I 327 00:42:46.620 --> 00:42:55.929 Leslie Roche: got the breath became sort of longer and smoother. and with the wazifas because they were loving. 328 00:42:56.210 --> 00:42:57.450 Leslie Roche: I'm sort of 329 00:42:57.880 --> 00:43:01.459 Leslie Roche: I can rest and just enjoy breathing. 330 00:43:01.610 --> 00:43:06.740 Leslie Roche: and feel as if it's a gift to breathe in and a gift to breathe out. 331 00:43:07.240 --> 00:43:12.530 Leslie Roche: And I used to not breathe out fully, and now I'm breathing out more fully. 332 00:43:12.720 --> 00:43:15.810 Leslie Roche: thinking it's a gift going into space. 333 00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:19.049 Leslie Roche: and I'm breathing in more fully. 334 00:43:19.320 --> 00:43:20.820 Leslie Roche: And I've noticing that 335 00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:28.480 Leslie Roche: when I talk sometimes, or when I think the breath kind of stops like about here. 336 00:43:28.660 --> 00:43:35.519 Leslie Roche: and when I don't I just breathe. it's like it. It goes up and just connects. 337 00:43:36.670 --> 00:43:38.130 Leslie Roche: That's very nice. 338 00:43:38.410 --> 00:43:52.329 Leslie Roche: And then you've introduced also breathing in the heart, which is new, because for me it was always up or down. and now it's also in and then out, which is very comforting in many situations. 339 00:43:52.720 --> 00:43:54.050 Leslie Roche: So thank you. 340 00:43:54.730 --> 00:43:56.510 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: you're welcome. 341 00:43:57.580 --> 00:44:00.809 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Ii think 342 00:44:01.710 --> 00:44:07.889 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I think it's really really hard to do any of the practices. Wrong? 343 00:44:11.590 --> 00:44:12.350 Yeah. 344 00:44:12.690 --> 00:44:14.509 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: maybe it's possible. 345 00:44:15.330 --> 00:44:16.490 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: But I think. 346 00:44:18.510 --> 00:44:19.300 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I 347 00:44:22.150 --> 00:44:23.869 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: yeah, I mean. 348 00:44:25.520 --> 00:44:29.239 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: looking at the long arc of 349 00:44:29.910 --> 00:44:33.250 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the what the intention and the 350 00:44:33.290 --> 00:44:34.910 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the the 351 00:44:35.360 --> 00:44:38.420 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: focusing of the practices and the teachings 352 00:44:39.380 --> 00:44:45.900 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: for the course, but then an even longer arc of spiritual practice, and the path in general. 353 00:44:47.120 --> 00:44:48.980 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: one of the 354 00:44:50.510 --> 00:44:55.139 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the focus is one of the concentrations. One of the ideals 355 00:44:55.680 --> 00:44:58.040 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: is to 356 00:44:59.380 --> 00:45:01.579 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: get calm enough. 357 00:45:02.070 --> 00:45:03.660 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: clear enough 358 00:45:04.130 --> 00:45:08.670 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: that we can begin to experience 359 00:45:10.340 --> 00:45:12.379 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the breath as a teacher. 360 00:45:17.270 --> 00:45:18.240 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And 361 00:45:18.760 --> 00:45:22.340 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: if what the teachers say about the breath 362 00:45:22.860 --> 00:45:23.920 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: are true. 363 00:45:25.370 --> 00:45:30.240 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: that it's the current that links together all of the planes in existence. 364 00:45:30.550 --> 00:45:39.759 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: that it's like a lift or an elevator that can take us to any of the different planes 365 00:45:41.150 --> 00:45:44.780 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: that it is the life force. 366 00:45:44.980 --> 00:45:50.779 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: It is a manifestation of love. It has a component of light with it. 367 00:45:53.550 --> 00:45:57.349 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: The way I've been thinking about it recently is 368 00:45:58.490 --> 00:46:03.610 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: that it may be the physical plane body 369 00:46:04.700 --> 00:46:06.310 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: of the spirit of guidance. 370 00:46:10.410 --> 00:46:16.070 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and not a body at all, really, but a vehicle. And and 371 00:46:16.190 --> 00:46:22.099 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: II read somewhere years ago, and I don't remember whether it was a soupy writer or some from somewhere else. 372 00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:31.290 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: It talked about breath as the densest manifestation of God in the physical world. 373 00:46:34.020 --> 00:46:41.750 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So you know, we're we're I'm I'm stepping into speculation here. 374 00:46:41.860 --> 00:46:42.860 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: But 375 00:46:43.550 --> 00:46:51.829 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: so many of the traditions emphasize the fact that the breath is a teacher and that we can learn from it. 376 00:46:52.250 --> 00:46:59.490 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: But we've got to be in a very subtle, a very calm state. 377 00:47:00.160 --> 00:47:08.030 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: because breath itself. Even physical air is very subtle compared to the materiality and the densness of our physical body 378 00:47:08.110 --> 00:47:10.120 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and all of the things around us. 379 00:47:11.360 --> 00:47:13.399 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: so that 380 00:47:18.090 --> 00:47:19.230 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: guidance 381 00:47:21.150 --> 00:47:22.060 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: there's 382 00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:28.400 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the spirit of guidance that Aniac says is the same spirit of guidance has worked through every 383 00:47:29.010 --> 00:47:30.360 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: awakened teacher 384 00:47:32.630 --> 00:47:37.730 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: that the personality, the way he worded it. As the personality was the same. 385 00:47:37.820 --> 00:47:39.930 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: The clothes were different. 386 00:47:42.420 --> 00:47:44.390 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: The outer manifestation 387 00:47:44.440 --> 00:47:50.619 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: close the personality, the tonality of the voice, the way the embodied person moved. 388 00:47:51.450 --> 00:48:04.230 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and he follows it up. And he's he's usually very very gentle and and and not snarky at all. And every once in a while there'll be a statement with a little bit. It seems to be a little bit of snark in it. 389 00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:15.560 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and after he says that it was the same personality in different garbs or different clothes. Then he says, for those who saw only the clothes. 390 00:48:17.130 --> 00:48:21.110 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: not the person behind the clothes. They went astray. 391 00:48:22.250 --> 00:48:26.610 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: but for those who saw the person, no matter what clothes they were wearing. 392 00:48:27.590 --> 00:48:32.799 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: That's where the growth is. And that's where the depth and the unfolding and the evolution is. 393 00:48:35.420 --> 00:48:37.240 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So. 394 00:48:37.550 --> 00:48:41.739 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: how wonderful to have that experience with Rakeeb. 395 00:48:43.720 --> 00:48:48.290 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: because really the 396 00:48:48.760 --> 00:48:51.120 formal practices 397 00:48:51.520 --> 00:48:53.550 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: aren't the experience 398 00:48:54.710 --> 00:49:03.700 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: there a way to focus, to tune, to uptune, so that we can begin to interact with 399 00:49:04.360 --> 00:49:06.900 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: whatever is behind 400 00:49:07.610 --> 00:49:14.860 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: that particular name or that particular format. And if we, if we hold to 401 00:49:16.220 --> 00:49:24.760 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: too tightly to the definitions about okay, this means that and this other one means that we're going to get some benefit. 402 00:49:24.810 --> 00:49:31.190 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: But we if we're and this is, you know, it's like craving. 403 00:49:31.320 --> 00:49:37.019 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: clinging. If if we're if we come at it too rigidly, come at it with too much 404 00:49:37.260 --> 00:49:40.089 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: mentolar or feeling 405 00:49:40.530 --> 00:49:45.700 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: it stops it from being interactive. 406 00:49:45.950 --> 00:49:47.670 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and it stops it from 407 00:49:48.060 --> 00:49:59.039 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: from the flow, because one of the things we want to tune into is what is the flow in the moment, so that we can be in the present moment, and be with and breathe with and interact with 408 00:49:59.050 --> 00:50:00.899 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: what's going on right now. 409 00:50:03.040 --> 00:50:03.940 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And 410 00:50:05.360 --> 00:50:09.490 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: we have to begin to have the experiences to even know that it's possible. 411 00:50:11.040 --> 00:50:20.230 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So the way I've been relating to descriptions and instructions for practices is that that's the starting place. 412 00:50:20.820 --> 00:50:25.299 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: That's a way to get into it that has worked for a lot of people. 413 00:50:26.960 --> 00:50:29.890 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: but that if we stay there we're staying in the shallows 414 00:50:32.110 --> 00:50:48.130 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and it it can become calibrated. It can become ritualized. So we do it always exactly the same every time. And yeah, benefit from that. But much more benefit if we're able to move into that. Wow. I'm in time with the moment, and I'm dancing 415 00:50:48.210 --> 00:50:52.859 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: with the larger breath, or the heart of the universe, or whatever it may be. 416 00:50:53.330 --> 00:50:59.610 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: have. 417 00:50:59.880 --> 00:51:02.450 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And whether I've mentioned this before, have you ever 418 00:51:02.500 --> 00:51:10.290 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: done the the dyad process where you mirror the other person's movement? 419 00:51:13.160 --> 00:51:15.280 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Some people have some people, haven't. 420 00:51:16.400 --> 00:51:22.419 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I only did it one time back in the late seventies. No, it was earlier than that. It was in the early seventies 421 00:51:24.940 --> 00:51:26.989 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: had an amazing experience. 422 00:51:27.680 --> 00:51:41.089 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And I was, I thought, Oh, can I do? I really wanna do this and went into that place in myself. And okay, so okay, I'll move my arm here. And the other person move their arm here, and then I waited for them to do something. I'll move the arm over there. 423 00:51:41.890 --> 00:51:45.340 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: But as we each relaxed into it 424 00:51:46.650 --> 00:51:50.699 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I was able to get to a place that wasn't 425 00:51:50.810 --> 00:51:52.810 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: me doing. 426 00:51:54.530 --> 00:52:07.300 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Yeah, I want. I opened up to the Us in that moment. and I didn't know who was moving and who was following, who was leading and who was following. If there was this other place 427 00:52:07.660 --> 00:52:18.239 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: that all of a sudden, you know, I had let go of it with my mentation and my ideas about how it needed to go, or how it should go, or how it shouldn't go. 428 00:52:18.800 --> 00:52:21.879 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and was just flowing with it as it flowed 429 00:52:23.010 --> 00:52:29.619 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And I believe because of that experience and other experiences I've had with practice. 430 00:52:29.670 --> 00:52:34.280 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: that all of the practices, all of the 431 00:52:34.700 --> 00:52:40.709 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the sound practice, the the chanting practice, the meditations and whatnot. They all 432 00:52:40.720 --> 00:52:45.099 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: can move into that place. and we end up dancing with spirit. 433 00:52:45.250 --> 00:52:56.309 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: To be poetic and metaphoric about it. okay. So I think that was 2. What was the third question, Leslie? 434 00:53:03.310 --> 00:53:06.020 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Breathing through your nose or breathing through your mouth. 435 00:53:07.250 --> 00:53:08.130 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Yeah. 436 00:53:12.110 --> 00:53:17.780 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: there seems to be consensus across traditions that 437 00:53:18.910 --> 00:53:23.459 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: breathing through the nose is better. 438 00:53:25.570 --> 00:53:32.150 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and if the sinuses are blocked. one can't breathe through their nose or 439 00:53:32.210 --> 00:53:43.260 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and I use a Cp at night to Savannah, so I now cannot do all the nostril breathing with the Cp. On. There's just too much equipment in the way, for one thing. 440 00:53:44.390 --> 00:53:46.129 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: yeah. 441 00:53:48.080 --> 00:53:51.339 I know that when I've had a head cold 442 00:53:51.430 --> 00:54:01.500 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and one of those where the sinuses are really completely blocked. And you know this area feels so big and so dense I can't think clearly. 443 00:54:03.980 --> 00:54:08.529 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I feel fuzzy-headed and kind of out of it, and 444 00:54:08.600 --> 00:54:11.739 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I've associated that with breathing through my mouth. 445 00:54:15.470 --> 00:54:20.290 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And you know, if 446 00:54:21.170 --> 00:54:26.030 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: if the sinuses are blocked, is it? Is it a physical problem? 447 00:54:26.300 --> 00:54:32.599 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Is it a deviative septum? Is it something else? Is it a low rate? Infection? Is it allergies? 448 00:54:32.620 --> 00:54:38.259 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: You know the symptom can be caused by many, many things. 449 00:54:39.390 --> 00:54:40.620 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: but 450 00:54:43.580 --> 00:54:48.880 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the the ideal is to be able to breathe through 451 00:54:49.220 --> 00:54:51.469 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: both nostrils, and then, noticing. 452 00:54:51.530 --> 00:54:58.370 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: at least from the Yoga point of view, noticing how it naturally moves more into one nostril, and then more into the other 453 00:54:58.500 --> 00:55:00.899 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: throughout the day, and 454 00:55:01.230 --> 00:55:13.569 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: with knowing, beginning to sense more and more of the qualities of right nostril, breathing and left nostril breathing to be able to bring yourself back into balance. If it's you're beginning to feel it's too much in one 455 00:55:13.700 --> 00:55:15.260 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: or too much of the other. 456 00:55:17.080 --> 00:55:18.030 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: But 457 00:55:21.250 --> 00:55:23.610 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: just in in 458 00:55:24.490 --> 00:55:33.789 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: what? But the the various things that I've heard Wally Ali and and Moynadine and Shanda, and other of Murshid Sam's students! 459 00:55:34.400 --> 00:55:36.780 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: His approach was that 460 00:55:38.430 --> 00:55:40.210 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: nothing's impossible. 461 00:55:44.620 --> 00:55:54.210 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and there are certain things that are more useful, and certain things that are less usable. Certain conditions and ways of doing things seem to make 462 00:55:55.230 --> 00:56:04.329 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: entering into an expanded safe easier. But from that point of view, with a loving concentration. 463 00:56:04.890 --> 00:56:09.100 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I think it's probably possible to do that with mouth breathing, too. 464 00:56:12.070 --> 00:56:13.740 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: It's probably gonna be a little harder. 465 00:56:13.980 --> 00:56:15.810 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: but it's still breath. 466 00:56:18.680 --> 00:56:33.319 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And as I shared at 1 point, and Nancy, you mentioned it in the email from the other day that Sam, in responding to his students freaking out about mercury going retrograde. 467 00:56:33.570 --> 00:56:38.049 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I'm not being able to get anything done. And he said, the breath has more power from planets. 468 00:56:38.620 --> 00:56:41.730 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: He also said it was more powerful than alcohol. 469 00:56:43.330 --> 00:56:52.240 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and in in he had a job planting trees and plants in Golden Gate Park and along the highways for a period of time. 470 00:56:52.610 --> 00:56:53.450 and 471 00:56:53.960 --> 00:57:02.299 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the crew that he was working with were, you know, blue-collar salt of the earth, heavy drinkers, fast livers 472 00:57:02.440 --> 00:57:07.710 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And he would go drinking with them afterwards. 473 00:57:08.520 --> 00:57:10.569 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and he could drink them out of the table. 474 00:57:12.540 --> 00:57:14.750 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and he said, I watch my breath. 475 00:57:15.260 --> 00:57:25.770 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So you know, not recommending that anybody decide to become a heavy drinker and try not to become drunk by watching the breath, but just that 476 00:57:27.700 --> 00:57:31.189 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: intention and the breath essence 477 00:57:32.530 --> 00:57:36.010 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: is the source of all of this other stuff. So it's more powerful. 478 00:57:39.420 --> 00:57:41.710 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I mean, if you look at the the. 479 00:57:42.130 --> 00:57:48.460 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the various creation stories or Scriptures or myths. However you think about them. 480 00:57:51.090 --> 00:57:57.410 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Bress is central to most of them as being one of the first movements 481 00:57:58.460 --> 00:58:04.610 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: to begin in that unknowable, mysterious condition that doesn't have any qualities. 482 00:58:05.350 --> 00:58:08.219 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: breath, sound, and light. 483 00:58:09.260 --> 00:58:10.360 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and there's a 484 00:58:10.410 --> 00:58:14.419 strong possibility that they are all 3 different words for the same 485 00:58:14.990 --> 00:58:16.970 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: something breath sound. I'd like. 486 00:58:20.610 --> 00:58:22.530 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and love. Love is in there, too. 487 00:58:25.350 --> 00:58:27.720 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So anyway, 488 00:58:32.620 --> 00:58:37.570 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: it's my experience that humans have an 489 00:58:37.710 --> 00:58:44.449 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: low level of default tendency to become dogmatic about anything. 490 00:58:46.830 --> 00:59:00.570 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and I felt for years a while ago that any kind of dog doggone was bad. And here I'm immediately staying in binary right, wrong, good, bad. 491 00:59:02.510 --> 00:59:08.859 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: What I believe now is that a certain amount of dogmatic approach can be helpful. 492 00:59:11.160 --> 00:59:16.459 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: But the the frame I'm holding it in is that it's helpful or useful 493 00:59:16.620 --> 00:59:19.420 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: period is limited. 494 00:59:21.650 --> 00:59:31.579 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and that we've got the capacity to grow beyond and be able to to begin to loosen the way we've been clinging to dogmatic 495 00:59:32.080 --> 00:59:41.300 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: positions and dogmatic ideas. They end up keeping us safe 496 00:59:41.860 --> 00:59:43.570 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: when we don't know better. 497 00:59:44.770 --> 01:00:00.340 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And look at how dogmatic parents can become with little kids about fire wandering into traffic about falling off the edge of something. You know. You know, there's those like there's a no come back from that 498 01:00:00.360 --> 01:00:03.210 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: absolutes boundaries 499 01:00:03.270 --> 01:00:07.119 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: until we get wise enough to be able to pay attention 500 01:00:07.320 --> 01:00:09.759 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: in a variety of directions. 501 01:00:10.310 --> 01:00:15.929 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And what tends to happen because we're not taught in the best way possible 502 01:00:16.710 --> 01:00:20.840 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: is that once we learn that stuff, we can let go of the dogmatic approaches about it. 503 01:00:21.340 --> 01:00:24.680 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: or the rigid structural approaches. 504 01:00:27.700 --> 01:00:28.640 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and 505 01:00:30.040 --> 01:00:37.189 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: learning for the breath, learning to let the breath, learning that the breath can become a teacher. 506 01:00:39.140 --> 01:00:44.309 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: is one way of wording, learning from our experience. 507 01:00:45.320 --> 01:00:53.099 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: paying attention to what's happening and being present with the moment, so he can see what's going on. 508 01:00:54.400 --> 01:01:05.189 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: If we're caught up in in our cravings or our clingings, or our avoidances, or our past experiences, or our wounds, or any of the other identities that we have. If we're really 509 01:01:05.660 --> 01:01:07.200 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: stuck with those 510 01:01:07.210 --> 01:01:09.320 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: we're not in the present moment we can't 511 01:01:09.910 --> 01:01:15.420 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: really see what's going on and what we learn about situations 512 01:01:17.580 --> 01:01:18.900 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: might be accurate. 513 01:01:19.240 --> 01:01:24.299 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: It might just be a distortion because of the way we're holding on to a set of ideas. 514 01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:32.860 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So 515 01:01:33.950 --> 01:01:40.409 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: more forgiveness, more breathing. more gratitude, more softening. 516 01:01:40.650 --> 01:01:41.630 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Moore. 517 01:01:45.080 --> 01:01:46.170 yielding 518 01:01:46.520 --> 01:01:47.889 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: in healthy ways. 519 01:01:49.780 --> 01:01:59.360 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and submission and surrender are terms that happen a lot in the different spiritual images. 520 01:02:00.340 --> 01:02:02.290 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And it's not 521 01:02:02.750 --> 01:02:14.440 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: surrender of bodily autonomy. It's not surrendering of one's income, even though we've seen those expressions of surrender in that way. 522 01:02:14.570 --> 01:02:19.710 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: It's a surrender of a particular ego perspective 523 01:02:23.850 --> 01:02:26.320 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: that believes it knows the whole story. 524 01:02:28.140 --> 01:02:41.349 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And then there's this, and I like the word. If facement. as a more useful word than surrender's mission. and a basement. you know, just in physically, when it's talking about birth. 525 01:02:41.890 --> 01:02:44.270 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: effacement is a relaxation 526 01:02:44.560 --> 01:02:46.600 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: to allow the baby to be born 527 01:02:47.610 --> 01:02:52.999 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and an expansion. And we're if facing our ego perspective. 528 01:02:53.740 --> 01:03:00.889 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: we're effacing what we think or believe we know about who we are and we're not. 529 01:03:03.740 --> 01:03:08.770 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And all of the different practices help with that process 530 01:03:09.110 --> 01:03:17.889 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: because the purification process are clarifying in the space clearing of the impressions from the heart. 531 01:03:18.750 --> 01:03:28.400 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and being able to be present with things. So we can more clearly see what's really going on. And men were in a better place to make a choice 532 01:03:28.690 --> 01:03:36.069 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: to either act or not act, because sometimes the most appropriate thing in a situation is to do nothing at all except hold space. 533 01:03:41.610 --> 01:03:43.950 Sometimes. That's not a very popular opinion. 534 01:03:44.480 --> 01:03:45.920 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: but mystically. 535 01:03:46.140 --> 01:03:54.530 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: sometimes the exact right thing to do is nothing to go into that container of silence and stillness. 536 01:03:54.800 --> 01:03:56.010 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and basically 537 01:03:56.060 --> 01:04:00.460 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: take Kuonjin's position and just hold the space 538 01:04:00.730 --> 01:04:01.810 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: lovingly. 539 01:04:09.390 --> 01:04:10.200 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So 540 01:04:11.580 --> 01:04:14.300 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: that's definitely the part, according to Louise. 541 01:04:16.200 --> 01:04:18.790 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And and I know that it's 542 01:04:19.950 --> 01:04:26.880 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: my understandings, and my way of operating, and what I feel is useful. And 543 01:04:27.170 --> 01:04:34.159 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the same proviso for this, as well as for the practices. Take what resonates. 544 01:04:35.510 --> 01:04:39.700 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: put my dozen aside. Maybe he'll come back to it. Maybe not. bye. 545 01:04:41.970 --> 01:04:44.140 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Don't feel like you've got to do all of it. 546 01:04:46.490 --> 01:04:50.819 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I'm pretty sure it was in one of the early videos involving, Ali commented. 547 01:04:52.290 --> 01:04:53.950 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: If this had been 548 01:04:54.770 --> 01:05:02.029 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: training or a class for one person that I was working with, it would have been a completely different class 549 01:05:02.180 --> 01:05:07.480 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: than what we're presenting now. because I knew I was going to be working with the group. 550 01:05:08.120 --> 01:05:16.480 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I included lots of different things because I didn't know who was going to respond to what and who was going to resonate with what. 551 01:05:17.820 --> 01:05:24.670 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So a lot of the practices are different variations on the fundamental breathing practice. 552 01:05:27.030 --> 01:05:29.789 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and some of us could come. Wow! 553 01:05:30.150 --> 01:05:37.399 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I really like that when not so much, or like Sivana, shared, it works for a while, and then it doesn't. 554 01:05:39.650 --> 01:05:46.419 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And maybe that's guidance, saying it's time to focus on something else. We can always come back to it. 555 01:05:47.290 --> 01:05:49.839 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: but just to to 556 01:05:51.270 --> 01:05:53.660 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: to remember. 557 01:05:56.150 --> 01:05:58.939 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Then it doesn't always have to be the same. 558 01:06:01.860 --> 01:06:06.449 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And and remembering that guidance is 559 01:06:07.040 --> 01:06:19.490 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: in the space all around us waiting to come through. we just need to get calm enough and quiet enough. and our breath in rhythm enough so that we can 560 01:06:19.530 --> 01:06:22.640 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: see, feel here, perceive 561 01:06:22.720 --> 01:06:25.190 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the flow of guidance that wants to come. 562 01:06:26.980 --> 01:06:34.099 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and then trusting it when it does come? Because there's always the back-and-forth about. Is this guidance? Is this intuition, or is it imagination. 563 01:06:34.200 --> 01:06:35.700 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: or is it projection? 564 01:06:36.470 --> 01:06:38.600 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And for me. 565 01:06:39.490 --> 01:06:48.730 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the only way that I've discovered to tell whether it's one or the other, if I'm not absolutely certain that it's guidance and intuition 566 01:06:48.800 --> 01:06:50.559 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: is to act on it 567 01:06:50.580 --> 01:06:52.129 and watch what happens. 568 01:06:53.490 --> 01:07:07.889 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: There was a period of time, you know. I get an impression, and then I do the eating to try and check it out. and in the beginning I wasn't doing any acting at all. I was just called consulting one thing or the other. This is right, this is wrong. 569 01:07:08.000 --> 01:07:16.170 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: But the one way to do it is to just okay, assume it's accurate and then act on it and watch what happens. 570 01:07:17.340 --> 01:07:24.499 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Watch what happens to the breath. watch what happens to interactions and how we feel afterwards. 571 01:07:25.640 --> 01:07:26.520 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: because 572 01:07:27.710 --> 01:07:29.259 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: we don't want to be wrong. 573 01:07:30.790 --> 01:07:34.399 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: We don't like being wrong. So very often we stop 574 01:07:34.610 --> 01:07:36.549 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: because we're afraid of being wrong. 575 01:07:39.610 --> 01:07:40.770 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And this is a 576 01:07:41.100 --> 01:07:43.000 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: grand experiment. 577 01:07:45.750 --> 01:07:47.239 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And to experiment 578 01:07:47.610 --> 01:07:52.339 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: you have to open up to the possibility that the experiment might not work. 579 01:08:04.710 --> 01:08:09.139 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Nancy, is there anything you want to share and no pressure? Since you're not feeling in tip-top shape? 580 01:08:09.270 --> 01:08:14.579 Nancy: Yeah, we have. Thank you definitely. I'm not well, but 581 01:08:16.700 --> 01:08:19.589 Nancy: absolutely. I have just 582 01:08:20.800 --> 01:08:26.700 Nancy: been completely blown away by this class and the teachings 583 01:08:27.359 --> 01:08:29.240 Nancy: on the breath. 584 01:08:31.050 --> 01:08:40.180 Nancy: You know, I was reflecting that I've been a part of spiritual practices for 45 years. I was like holy smokes 585 01:08:40.540 --> 01:08:51.669 Nancy: to believe that for myself. But and have spent time with the breath, you know, in different traditions. And 586 01:08:51.800 --> 01:08:55.840 Nancy: and the I would have to say that this 587 01:08:55.880 --> 01:09:07.180 Nancy: you know, really doing the descent of the dial with absolutely knocked me out, because it was like it opened up something 588 01:09:07.290 --> 01:09:10.439 Nancy: that had never been opened up, you know, like through 589 01:09:10.600 --> 01:09:21.100 Nancy: was like, you know. I don't even know how to put it, but I was so struggling with how do I have this descent of the dove with my breath, you know my 590 01:09:21.210 --> 01:09:29.060 Nancy: in breath, and II was having like trouble with it, and I just kept trying. And 591 01:09:29.189 --> 01:09:34.569 Nancy: and and it's the who and the Allah was was just 592 01:09:34.880 --> 01:09:54.060 Nancy: having the in breath, the who and the out breath, Allah! And then having like, II guess, in those other traditions. It's always sort of bottom up. Or you know, Pendulini comes up so, having something come, you know, usually using the visualization coming down. 593 01:09:54.360 --> 01:10:09.149 Nancy: even if I never could visualize a dove for life life with me, I couldn't get that. But I still just having the awareness, you know, go up and come down was like 594 01:10:09.190 --> 01:10:15.930 Nancy: so wonderful. And and I also really loved Yahad Yasamad as a practice. 595 01:10:16.200 --> 01:10:29.139 Nancy: Again, II think it's that opening, you know. Similarly, it's that opening up the heart and and combining that inner space. You know the chest area, the gateway area 596 01:10:29.180 --> 01:10:32.049 Nancy: with the rest practice. So 597 01:10:33.000 --> 01:10:34.000 Nancy: a month. 598 01:10:34.150 --> 01:10:42.990 Nancy: Yeah, I'm very thankful I just. I've had. I've been so blessed in my life to have so many amazing teachers along the way. 599 01:10:43.260 --> 01:10:44.430 Nancy: And 600 01:10:45.360 --> 01:10:50.209 but II I've been studying roomy and 601 01:10:50.750 --> 01:10:52.439 Nancy: Rumi definitely. 602 01:10:52.670 --> 01:11:01.360 Nancy: You know, he refers to the divine breath all the time. And so, of course, now, because I'm in this course, I, 603 01:11:01.840 --> 01:11:08.790 Nancy: you know I can't help. But you know, like my eyes go. Whoa! You know Rumi's talking about the breath again. So 604 01:11:09.050 --> 01:11:19.789 Nancy: II click. I just almost wanted to go through and make a list of all of the things remote breath and read it to you. But I'm not well enough to 605 01:11:20.110 --> 01:11:27.410 Nancy: to go. I might say one thing what he said like this. One thing I like. So I'm gonna read you a little bit, Rumi. 606 01:11:28.810 --> 01:11:29.580 Nancy: Hmm! 607 01:11:30.690 --> 01:11:44.029 Nancy: The prophet said. In these days the breathings of God prevail. Keep ear and mind attentive to these spiritual influences. Catch up these kinds of breathings. 608 01:11:44.580 --> 01:11:49.080 The divine breathing came. beheld you, and departed. 609 01:11:49.400 --> 01:11:52.820 Nancy: It gave life to whom it would, and departed. 610 01:11:53.070 --> 01:11:57.990 Another breathing has arrived. Be heedful 611 01:11:58.030 --> 01:12:01.970 Nancy: that you may not miss this one too, old comrade. 612 01:12:02.780 --> 01:12:06.159 Nancy: and so it's just like another breathing has come. And 613 01:12:06.670 --> 01:12:09.929 Nancy: II absolutely wanna be heatful. 614 01:12:10.540 --> 01:12:16.089 Nancy: And I've so loved listening to everybody. And 615 01:12:16.560 --> 01:12:20.609 Nancy: you know, you're you're teaching us. It's just been so 616 01:12:21.090 --> 01:12:23.180 Nancy: so good for my heart, you know. 617 01:12:24.920 --> 01:12:26.400 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: No, I'm doing that. 618 01:12:26.620 --> 01:12:30.150 Nancy: Yeah, I just everybody, you know. Thank you so much. 619 01:12:31.930 --> 01:12:33.790 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: You're definitely, very welcome. 620 01:12:44.360 --> 01:12:47.169 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So I 621 01:12:48.730 --> 01:12:53.370 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: one thing I wanted to look for believe is, say a bit about 622 01:12:54.150 --> 01:12:55.750 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the next class. 623 01:12:58.730 --> 01:13:05.410 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: which the the original curriculum was 10 lessons 624 01:13:06.710 --> 01:13:16.640 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and when I began opening the guidance and concentrating on it. After I've been asked to step into the directors 625 01:13:18.030 --> 01:13:18.890 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: role. 626 01:13:20.190 --> 01:13:24.490 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I got a very, very strong impression to split it into 3 different parts. 627 01:13:25.990 --> 01:13:28.820 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: so the second part 628 01:13:29.540 --> 01:13:32.170 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: is called after 629 01:13:32.320 --> 01:13:37.440 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: one of one of the major breath practices Mujahida. 630 01:13:40.680 --> 01:13:44.180 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and. as we say it here in 631 01:13:46.120 --> 01:13:49.920 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: in Northern California, with emphasis on the Hida 632 01:13:50.030 --> 01:13:51.330 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Mujahida. 633 01:13:51.410 --> 01:13:57.380 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and Balal continually has corrected us with Mujahida, because that's where the long A is 634 01:13:57.390 --> 01:14:02.550 he? He would joke about our Sebastopolian Arabic accents. 635 01:14:05.010 --> 01:14:16.319 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: But Mujahida comes from the word jihad. which is jihad is an outer struggle or a battle. 636 01:14:17.250 --> 01:14:20.920 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and if I'm remembering the story 637 01:14:21.590 --> 01:14:25.290 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: in the early days of Islam being born, and 638 01:14:25.430 --> 01:14:31.559 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I'm receiving the message that messages that became Quran. 639 01:14:32.030 --> 01:14:35.190 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: there was a lot of 640 01:14:36.700 --> 01:14:42.069 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: There was a lot of opposition from the other people in power. 641 01:14:42.110 --> 01:14:46.940 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and the other religions that were going on at the time, and there were actual physical battles 642 01:14:47.090 --> 01:14:50.609 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: as they tried to stamp out. 643 01:14:50.930 --> 01:14:54.119 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: but he had the message to bring. 644 01:14:54.440 --> 01:14:57.390 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and when the last battle 645 01:14:57.410 --> 01:14:58.779 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: was finished. 646 01:14:58.990 --> 01:15:05.439 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: what he said to his close followers was the outer jihad is now finished. 647 01:15:05.800 --> 01:15:18.069 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: What begins next is the inner job, the inner struggle with our own sense of our own egos, our sense of who we believe ourselves to be, our our 648 01:15:18.660 --> 01:15:27.160 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: clinging and our cravings and our avoidances and our limitations, because we're so tightly clinging to. 649 01:15:27.360 --> 01:15:31.079 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: who we believe we are to be. So Mujahida 650 01:15:31.200 --> 01:15:41.910 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: is a breath practice that gets to the place we've been getting to with everything we've been doing. And then 651 01:15:42.200 --> 01:15:47.310 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: just sitting in that calm place and beginning to contemplate the heart 652 01:15:49.370 --> 01:15:57.620 and watching what arises. and deciding if it's an impression that serves us, and we want to keep it. 653 01:15:58.340 --> 01:16:02.020 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Oh, hum de la! If it's an impression that 654 01:16:02.610 --> 01:16:09.410 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: is about judgment, or about limitation, or it's a criticism of someone else or 655 01:16:09.540 --> 01:16:17.579 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: anything that's not in that beautiful, loving harmony. Then that's that's that's the 656 01:16:18.610 --> 01:16:23.889 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the greater struggle we have now of. Okay, that's an impression about separation. 657 01:16:24.040 --> 01:16:26.590 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: It's an impression that does not 658 01:16:26.600 --> 01:16:30.760 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: feel merged with the one. So we worked to move 659 01:16:30.960 --> 01:16:34.959 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: move that blemish from the heart, that impression over the heart 660 01:16:35.080 --> 01:16:53.190 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: in a variety of ways. But that's basically just the concentration of just looking and seeing what's arising. And to use the image that Rumi has used over and over again, it's clearing, the polishing of the mirror of the heart, the clearing of the impressions from the art. 661 01:16:54.510 --> 01:16:58.760 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: are all about. Separation all about lack all about 662 01:16:59.330 --> 01:17:06.550 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: not having all about having too much all about not liking the world, all about not liking ourselves. 663 01:17:06.760 --> 01:17:07.620 and 664 01:17:08.550 --> 01:17:10.899 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: you know some people have more than others. 665 01:17:11.150 --> 01:17:16.010 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I think some of us when we came into the Incarnation. 666 01:17:17.200 --> 01:17:27.130 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: chose to take a bit of the world's karma to work on as we're working on our own. It's an idea. Maybe it's true. Maybe not 667 01:17:27.800 --> 01:17:29.950 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: sounds noble, though. 668 01:17:31.750 --> 01:17:39.039 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: but in any case it's gonna be an opportunity, if you feel drawn, to pursue it. 669 01:17:39.070 --> 01:17:41.020 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: to continue the process 670 01:17:41.430 --> 01:17:47.040 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and spend more time with the fundamental practices, and then some variations and then. 671 01:17:48.200 --> 01:17:49.689 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Now excuse me, this one. 672 01:17:50.810 --> 01:18:02.959 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: which is from from one angle. It's a purification practice where we're working at clearing from the heart. All of the impressions that aren't about unity. 673 01:18:04.080 --> 01:18:07.270 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: that are the beliefs about separation and whatnot. 674 01:18:08.700 --> 01:18:10.650 And the third section 675 01:18:11.810 --> 01:18:16.310 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: is an even deeper manifestation, a deeper, deeper 676 01:18:17.750 --> 01:18:19.410 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: permutation. 677 01:18:21.270 --> 01:18:25.500 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: moving that contemplation into a grander space. 678 01:18:27.250 --> 01:18:30.020 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: taking it's called Mushahida. 679 01:18:30.590 --> 01:18:33.229 and that's from the word Shahid. 680 01:18:33.590 --> 01:18:34.590 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: witnessing. 681 01:18:36.090 --> 01:18:45.180 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: acknowledging the unity. So in in the Mushahida. Aka Mushahida 682 01:18:49.450 --> 01:18:52.259 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: taking the viewpoint 683 01:18:55.140 --> 01:18:57.200 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: as we're looking at the heart 684 01:18:57.710 --> 01:18:59.130 and considering 685 01:18:59.590 --> 01:19:01.020 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the perspective 686 01:19:01.280 --> 01:19:09.620 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: that everything that's arising is arising within the heart of God, and we're looking at it and holding it from God's perspective. 687 01:19:11.550 --> 01:19:12.390 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So 688 01:19:17.100 --> 01:19:18.740 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: it's a big step. 689 01:19:22.870 --> 01:19:31.260 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: But anyway, I'm gonna be sending out a message to all of the folks that are in the wheels this time to find out who's interested in going on 690 01:19:31.780 --> 01:19:40.410 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the Muji, of course, and we're planning on launching them mid to light. April may be the beginning of May 691 01:19:40.580 --> 01:19:46.960 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: tried to coordinate with Waduda in the treasurer seat, and Basira in the secretary seat. 692 01:19:47.240 --> 01:19:55.350 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: because we've got to have a registration form and structures need to be set up, and and I need to do a little more reworking of the the curriculum. 693 01:19:56.320 --> 01:20:07.679 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: For whatever reason, in the in the original 10 Lesson series. Baliali didn't introduce Mujahida until the tenth class 694 01:20:08.710 --> 01:20:11.179 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: as a preparation for Mushahida 695 01:20:13.300 --> 01:20:14.670 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and 696 01:20:14.970 --> 01:20:23.180 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and it may have just been kind of a decision in the moment that he wanted to do some other things first and then back. 697 01:20:23.770 --> 01:20:30.549 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: but the guidance I got was make it an entire segment of its own to get deeper and deeper practice. 698 01:20:31.660 --> 01:20:32.600 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and 699 01:20:32.750 --> 01:20:41.810 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I'm moving through it a little bit little bit more systematically. But anyway, that's where the course is headed. and 700 01:20:43.190 --> 01:20:45.430 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: absolutely no 701 01:20:46.930 --> 01:20:51.459 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: criticism or judgment. If you don't want to continue at this point. 702 01:20:52.590 --> 01:20:56.080 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and this is, you know, complete freedom here to to 703 01:20:56.200 --> 01:20:58.410 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: to respond to what you're drawn to 704 01:21:04.130 --> 01:21:05.670 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: any questions or 705 01:21:06.280 --> 01:21:09.110 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: comments or observations. 706 01:21:14.190 --> 01:21:16.920 Oh, will this class with you be at the same time. 707 01:21:17.570 --> 01:21:20.700 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I 708 01:21:20.910 --> 01:21:25.469 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: have been dipping into and out of the fact that I need to make that decision. 709 01:21:25.850 --> 01:21:31.110 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So it's very good that you've articulated it right now, Leslie. 710 01:21:32.040 --> 01:21:39.289 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I think if folks from this circle want to continue this time has been working for us, so why not. 711 01:21:45.780 --> 01:21:46.610 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: please? 712 01:21:47.400 --> 01:21:54.410 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Oh, II just hadn't. I had my first comment wasn't really what I wanted to say in terms of 713 01:21:54.420 --> 01:22:02.140 Vadan Tereza: you know what I mean I was. It was just in the moment of what I was feeling. But so 714 01:22:03.000 --> 01:22:06.110 Vadan Tereza: 715 01:22:07.240 --> 01:22:10.360 Vadan Tereza: I have. I have a very deep curiosity. 716 01:22:10.840 --> 01:22:28.129 Vadan Tereza: I was. I was explaining Merchant Sam to a friend, to a spiritual friend of mine yesterday, and I was just talking about him as as like a mad Zube, as like a crazy wisdom person who brought 717 01:22:28.200 --> 01:22:32.610 Vadan Tereza: the the Zen Buddhism and the Sufism together. 718 01:22:32.700 --> 01:22:45.869 Vadan Tereza: as well as whatever else he was bringing together. So and and for me my own life has really been my whole. My whole spiritual search has really been 719 01:22:45.930 --> 01:23:01.830 Vadan Tereza: Deeply influenced by Buddhism, Sufism, and also like some invite to inquiry. So so, anyway. So that's just so. As a way of saying, you know that. Well, first of all, I'm I'm still, I'm still curious. I'm still kind of 720 01:23:02.070 --> 01:23:08.500 Vadan Tereza: curious about that. You know about that that sort of interfusion. But 721 01:23:08.840 --> 01:23:09.869 Vadan Tereza: I think 722 01:23:09.960 --> 01:23:27.839 Vadan Tereza: I think I'm I'm I perceive the work that we're doing together as as something about that attunement. That sort of encompasses, those things. And and I'm yeah. And I'm I'm deeply grateful that you've you've brought. You've created this container for us to explore that together. 723 01:23:27.840 --> 01:23:45.190 Vadan Tereza: And and yeah, because both of those threads have been so meaningful to me. This this class is very, very meaningful, and really provides a space for me to kind of, you know. Be in that in that place of Yes, yes, and instead of Oh, you know 724 01:23:45.270 --> 01:23:49.159 Vadan Tereza: cause because you do, you cause you get that a lot in the world? You know, people think 725 01:23:49.340 --> 01:24:00.929 Vadan Tereza: that you're not serious spiritual student cause. You're sort of dabbling in a little Buddhism a little Sofie dance. And it's it's not really. It's not really true, especially if you've been 726 01:24:01.050 --> 01:24:04.590 Vadan Tereza: practicing for as many decades 727 01:24:04.710 --> 01:24:10.640 Vadan Tereza: as some of us have. So. But but anyways, yeah, II yeah. 728 01:24:10.830 --> 01:24:14.780 Vadan Tereza: just wanted to bring 729 01:24:15.390 --> 01:24:16.320 Vadan Tereza: bring that. 730 01:24:16.710 --> 01:24:20.169 Vadan Tereza: That's that's part of the clothes close for. 731 01:24:20.540 --> 01:24:21.290 Vadan Tereza: Yeah. 732 01:24:21.730 --> 01:24:23.439 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: thank you. Thank you. 733 01:25:06.280 --> 01:25:12.330 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I definitely want to offer my gratitude to each of you. 734 01:25:15.500 --> 01:25:19.380 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: The delight that 735 01:25:19.930 --> 01:25:23.730 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I've experienced. The light is arising. 736 01:25:24.170 --> 01:25:25.070 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Paris 737 01:25:25.720 --> 01:25:41.240 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: rather than I am delighted. of the way we've worked together. The co-creation of this shared heart space and shared breath space 738 01:25:42.090 --> 01:25:43.890 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and the richness 739 01:25:44.600 --> 01:25:50.269 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: that I experience when people share out of their own experiences. 740 01:25:52.640 --> 01:25:54.270 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And I did it. 741 01:25:58.440 --> 01:26:03.150 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: it seems to create or I perceive it, creating 742 01:26:03.280 --> 01:26:05.310 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: multi-dimensionality 743 01:26:05.580 --> 01:26:07.429 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: in what we've been doing. 744 01:26:09.380 --> 01:26:12.550 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: because, you know, on one level wherein 745 01:26:12.980 --> 01:26:19.639 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: apparently separate bodies and definitely in separate geographic locations. 746 01:26:20.300 --> 01:26:27.419 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And yet there is a unity and emerging and a oneness 747 01:26:27.940 --> 01:26:31.339 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: in the way we've been interacting with each other. 748 01:26:36.790 --> 01:26:39.660 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And it's it's 749 01:26:42.420 --> 01:26:47.989 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: delightful and gratifying. And it's also humbling to watch the process unfold. 750 01:26:52.390 --> 01:26:59.369 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I've been in different teaching contexts for a long, long time 751 01:27:01.940 --> 01:27:05.640 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: from in the non non-sufi world 752 01:27:05.750 --> 01:27:09.609 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: teaching people computer software skills. 753 01:27:13.080 --> 01:27:15.760 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I thought 754 01:27:16.930 --> 01:27:23.610 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: designing websites and also quick books at the Junior college. Here in Santa Rosa, for 12 years, 13 years 755 01:27:24.950 --> 01:27:28.020 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and a couple of semesters 756 01:27:29.640 --> 01:27:35.769 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: had a group of people that there was hardly any interaction at all. 757 01:27:36.310 --> 01:27:38.050 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: It was an in-person class. 758 01:27:39.830 --> 01:27:41.650 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and 759 01:27:42.270 --> 01:27:50.759 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: everybody was very quiet. and I'm doing my presentation about how to how to use quickbooks. and there's nothing coming back. 760 01:27:52.570 --> 01:27:53.410 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and 761 01:27:54.800 --> 01:28:06.280 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I never learned the names of the people in that section. cause I never had enough interaction with them to kinda go right. That's you, and that's you. 762 01:28:06.340 --> 01:28:07.770 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And normally 763 01:28:08.080 --> 01:28:20.730 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I would joke with people. I said, if you want me to learn your name quickly, sit in the same chair 3 classes in a row, and I'll have it if you don't want me to learn your name. Sit in a different place each week. 764 01:28:21.600 --> 01:28:23.200 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and 765 01:28:23.870 --> 01:28:28.409 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: because there was no interaction with the people, they just 766 01:28:29.610 --> 01:28:31.309 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: it. It was 767 01:28:31.470 --> 01:28:36.309 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: this amorphous place and I had like. 768 01:28:36.420 --> 01:28:39.929 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: is it? Does it make sense? Is it getting across? And whatnot? 769 01:28:40.650 --> 01:28:42.080 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So? 770 01:28:42.100 --> 01:28:50.440 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: you know you never! You never can tell what the dynamic of the group is going to be when you get a group of people that haven't worked together together. 771 01:28:50.930 --> 01:28:58.510 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: But this has been. It's been a delightful experience for me. It has fed me 772 01:28:58.750 --> 01:29:00.360 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: in the way that 773 01:29:00.640 --> 01:29:09.850 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: interactivity and co-creation has the possibility to feed us. and 774 01:29:10.430 --> 01:29:11.650 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: because 775 01:29:12.130 --> 01:29:18.760 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: people ask questions, I get to learn things or get to move into perspectives 776 01:29:18.860 --> 01:29:21.130 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: that I didn't necessarily knew I knew. 777 01:29:21.890 --> 01:29:24.840 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: or that hadn't hadn't considered before. 778 01:29:26.090 --> 01:29:29.000 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And that's that's always exciting. 779 01:29:31.460 --> 01:29:43.070 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And, Nancy, I had a similar experience of. I've been watching my breath in supposedly the Sufi style since 1975, 780 01:29:43.710 --> 01:29:46.429 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and I thought I was doing a good job with it. 781 01:29:47.170 --> 01:29:55.539 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And I had this realization when I went through this course myself a couple of years ago. of realizing. 782 01:29:58.940 --> 01:30:07.730 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: without denigrating any of the watching of my breath. I've done before. This is a whole new dimension for me. 783 01:30:11.020 --> 01:30:11.940 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and 784 01:30:13.530 --> 01:30:15.490 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: that keeps unfolding 785 01:30:16.930 --> 01:30:22.049 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and unfolding. And I never, never worked with Ricky previously. 786 01:30:22.060 --> 01:30:26.000 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and I think I've shared this before. It keeps unfolding 787 01:30:26.340 --> 01:30:28.509 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and unfolding and unfolding. 788 01:30:28.790 --> 01:30:30.220 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: So 789 01:30:32.450 --> 01:30:35.490 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: yeah, hidden treasures everywhere. 790 01:30:36.820 --> 01:30:44.769 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And if we're holding things too tightly. we just pass em over. We don't even see her as they're hidden in plain sight. 791 01:30:51.180 --> 01:30:52.520 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: so 792 01:31:00.670 --> 01:31:01.820 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I will. 793 01:31:02.280 --> 01:31:14.120 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: I will come to a decision. I've got to sit with a metaphate on it. whether we're going to do it at the same time and same day or not. There's a couple of other considerations I have to put into the mix. 794 01:31:14.160 --> 01:31:17.130 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and I will let you know. I think 795 01:31:17.420 --> 01:31:27.699 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the registration forms I've got to talk with Maduda again, cause she was in India, for for with Shabbat, with merchand, with Pirate Khan's horse. 796 01:31:27.760 --> 01:31:32.900 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and she's back in the office now, so we gotta get together with her and see with her. Workload is 797 01:31:33.070 --> 01:31:46.559 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: but before she left we talked about mid to late April to basically going live with the the the restart of of a level one class, and then 798 01:31:46.570 --> 01:31:51.290 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the Mujahida. So I will keep you posted. And 799 01:31:52.920 --> 01:31:56.780 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: yeah, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. 800 01:32:00.740 --> 01:32:05.879 Leslie Roche: Yeah, thank you. Thank everybody. It was I really loved everybody sharing. 801 01:32:06.380 --> 01:32:09.890 Leslie Roche: I do think we really became a lovely group. 802 01:32:10.550 --> 01:32:16.630 Leslie Roche: For me. It would be better later on Sunday, though, like 1, 30, 1230, or one. 803 01:32:17.080 --> 01:32:24.590 Leslie Roche: I'm not sure about other people, but it would be quite late here. Oh, that's true. Sorry. 804 01:32:25.320 --> 01:32:26.040 Yeah. 805 01:32:28.320 --> 01:32:37.519 Andy Cheffings: I've I've also loved it. It's been lovely meeting everyone, and it's it's been a a real. It's been a real sort of thing to treasure through the year. So thank you ever so much. 806 01:32:37.660 --> 01:32:41.680 Leslie Roche: Ask Moody's your question. Andy 807 01:32:41.890 --> 01:32:53.160 Andy Cheffings: is open to us all, being in the course next time his face is is fine. So that's that's the answer. 808 01:32:53.430 --> 01:32:56.190 Leslie Roche: Okay, cool. I interpreted that correctly. 809 01:32:59.350 --> 01:33:02.260 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Alright, my dears. 810 01:33:03.020 --> 01:33:04.380 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: remember. 811 01:33:04.450 --> 01:33:09.899 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: as in the the Gaia traditions, the 812 01:33:09.960 --> 01:33:14.690 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: wicket traditions. the circle is open, but not 813 01:33:15.100 --> 01:33:18.940 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: this. How's it? Go unbroken? 814 01:33:19.160 --> 01:33:28.209 Vadan Tereza: May the circle be open, but unbroken, made the peace of the goddess go in your heart, Mary, meet Mary. Part, Mary mee again. 815 01:33:28.530 --> 01:33:36.090 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Thank you for correcting my mangling of that. But but the truth is 816 01:33:36.590 --> 01:33:41.219 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: co-created breath and heart spaces outside of time and space. 817 01:33:42.340 --> 01:33:43.130 Vadan Tereza: Hmm! 818 01:33:43.240 --> 01:33:50.800 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And when we shut down the zoom, or we leave the physical circle, drop hands and go. 819 01:33:51.070 --> 01:33:59.890 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: That circle seems to disappear. But the co-creation of the energetic container that has been built 820 01:34:00.770 --> 01:34:05.629 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: is there, and we can draw on it anytime we need by 821 01:34:05.760 --> 01:34:07.230 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: breathing from it 822 01:34:07.790 --> 01:34:12.350 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: the very same breath we've been doing accumulating prana. 823 01:34:13.230 --> 01:34:19.090 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: What's said is that with the breath we can draw out of the space whatever we need. 824 01:34:20.870 --> 01:34:22.020 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and by 825 01:34:22.100 --> 01:34:34.540 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: doing a very, very short attunement, maybe a visualization of the tiles on the the screen here, or however you may tune into it. 826 01:34:35.640 --> 01:34:39.610 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: you've opened the channel to the container 827 01:34:40.010 --> 01:34:42.560 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and inhaling from it 828 01:34:42.640 --> 01:34:48.259 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: strength of support, inspiration, whatever you need. 829 01:34:48.340 --> 01:34:52.560 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and also because it's not just the the 6 of us. 830 01:34:56.210 --> 01:34:57.660 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Wally Ali is here. 831 01:34:58.990 --> 01:35:10.840 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Merchant Sam is here, and Ayatka is here. And all of your teachers, through your connections to your teachers. It it's all part of the mix. 832 01:35:11.230 --> 01:35:15.130 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: and and some of them are a little more 833 01:35:18.730 --> 01:35:25.380 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: emphasize. I don't want to say more present. I can't. I'm I'm reaching for words now, but you know 834 01:35:25.910 --> 01:35:27.880 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: we are myriad 835 01:35:29.710 --> 01:35:33.969 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: through all of our experience, and you know, at the soul level. 836 01:35:35.590 --> 01:35:40.020 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: who are the illuminated souls. We've got names for a bunch of them. 837 01:35:40.430 --> 01:35:41.410 Vadan Tereza: Umhm. 838 01:35:41.660 --> 01:35:49.049 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: And then all of us that we usually forget to put in that company because we're focused on our personality. 839 01:35:49.540 --> 01:35:54.969 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: But as we expand in a face into our larger being. 840 01:35:55.070 --> 01:35:58.260 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: that is us Kuan Yin is me. 841 01:35:58.400 --> 01:36:05.189 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: Shiva is me. Jesus is me. Muhammad is me. Kalima is me, you know. 842 01:36:09.300 --> 01:36:10.100 Yeah. 843 01:36:10.460 --> 01:36:12.279 Muiz-N. Calif, USA: so thank you, dear hearts.